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You know, sometimes headlines are done in a cheeky way to pique your interest. Other times, they are written completely inflammatory to incite visceral emotion.

And then there times like this – when the facts alone make you stop dead in your tracks, sit with mouth agape, drool trickling down your quivering lip and finally surmise enough air to ask, “What the…”

Yes, Wall Watchers. You read that correctly without satire, Ray Boltz is Gay.

So, here is this acclaimed and legendary vocalist and songwriter of about 30 years – heartbroken, divorced and clinically depressed. Then on December 26, 2004 – the day of the tragic Indonesian tsumani – Boltz couldn’t sing enough praise to get him out of his funk. He had to say something that would throw his family of six into a storm of their own.

“It’s hard to say I came out because I didn’t have all the answers. I just admitted what I was struggling with and what I was feeling. It’s hard to go, ‘This is the point where I accepted my sexuality and who I was,’ but I came out to them and shared with them what I’d been going through.”

And now, these few years later, Boltz is still singing… but at MCC churches. You see, these are pastors that believes when the Bible reads, “Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul” it means much more than it really does.

After a song, a word and some serious thinking, Boltz figured it out:

Boltz brought the Christmas CD with him to MCC-Indianapolis on that cold, sunny December 2007 day and slipped it to Miner on his way out with a note taped to it on which he’d jotted his e-mail address. Ostensibly it was an innocuous thing to do, but for Boltz it was a big step. It eventually led to him opening up to Miner, one of the first times anybody outside Boltz’s circle of family and friends knew his long-kept secret: Ray Boltz is gay.

I am floored with disbelief and flummoxed for words. After he was “Pledging Allegiance to the Lamb” and “Feeling the Nails” for all of those majestic years, it turns out Ray Boltz was asking God, “What was I supposed to be?”

What’s more appalling than the news is the lack of coverage from the Church. As of this date, The Writing on the Wall is the ONLY Christian source to discuss this story. Um, WHAT?! After everything this man has given the Kingdom of God and church mimes everywhere (come on, who hasn’t seen his music done in whiteface), we owe him that much. No mudslinging, no namecalling, no smarmy “jokes”. Just a little prayer. Please.

Wherever God’s journey takes you Ray and whatever choices you make, I just want to say “Thank You” because listening to your songs brought us so much. Now, listening to them will be a little different, yet somehow, mysteriously the same.

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Comments
  1. Stephen Hale says:

    Tried to query Ray on his Blog…the one which he said he will either ignore or not read and will not display “hateful” comments concerning his new music. Apparently he is not accepting ANY comments, in that I tried to but the link would not function (a possible out for his site that there might be a computer glitch etc.).
    There are a LOT of chemical malfunctions of the body that cause the body to do things that they had previously preferred not to do, sort of a homeostasis where a rat deprived of its ability to assimilate salt begins to eat salt more than it had desired to eat before. I have a nephew who confessed to me concerning demons telling him to do things and felt like they were sexually abusing him, but later on found that he was Bipolar and with proper medications, though devastating in certain side effects, was able to at least stop the voices and the manifestations of abuse.
    It is well possible a person can be effeminate as a male, or the counterpart when the person is a female, and such are abused by their peers for sure, yet, this is NOT the homosexuality of the Bible which requires an act of sodomy.
    Heterosexual males and females have urges consistent with their true sex, yet they are not to express their urges promiscuously, and in the Bible, to do so is considered a sin AS the overt act associated with homosexuality is also considered a sin.
    Were Ray to be viewed by his Christian peers as effeminate, we should lavish him with Christian Agape love (unconditional love) which ought to encourage him not to be involved in a Homosexual sex act. If we can even believe him that he has not involved himself in such acts, we can still practice that love.
    However, he is openly saying that he IS a homosexual or gay, meaning the same thing, and in a way that is a lie, and he is a liar to promote this thought. Such ANTI Bible concepts as his must be refuted, and it is not unloving to do so…though I sometimes doubt the attitude of my fellows who press their condemnations to obnoxious limits almost giving credence to the claim of Ray that he is INDEED gay for being effeminate and chemically attracted to his own sex, when such things are basically pathological.
    Paul in 1 Corinthians specifically mentions that we are to treat Christian sinners with agape love according to the law of two or three witnesses that establishes a matter and is a process to confront the sin among the believers. At the end of that process, we are to; basically, excommunicate the obstinate sinners, allowing God to judge them outside of the Body of Christ (which is the Biblical local and visible assembly of that locale). At the point that there is repentance, can we allow that person in, provided he heed the principles of the Bible (Paul so requests this in his second letter for that excommunication the church apparently did concerning his first letter).
    Whatever church that Ray was attending, if they had not done this Biblical thing while Ray began to be obstinate about his “outing,” they have done the first disservice to Ray, who would by now, besieged by the adversary, be banging on the doors to re-enter the assembly or into Christian service as that person in 2 Corinthians, and, as Paul, I would be admonishing his return to the fold.
    SO, at this juncture, with possible remedies not performed, I can almost “in spirit” place my amen to shunning among those of us in the Christian community concerning Ray, until he becomes more accurate in the portrayal of his condition. If he TRULY is celibate, and not promoting the Homosexual community lie concerning what a gay person is, I can see hope to accept him as part of the Christian community, but at this juncture I cannot, and those of you condemning Christians for their “judgmental behavior” concerning him, are as deceived and ignorant as the Christians among us who failed to follow through on the only real other remedy the Bible has provided, outside of stoning which was only for those under the laws of Moses, among a people living in the land of Israel.

  2. Nathan Huffstetler says:

    I am so, so…hurt, but surprised. I always thought that Ray Bolz would be one that was against homosexuality!
    The Bible clearly states that it is a sin!
    And you read the Bible for your songs! Like The Stones, and Watch the Lamb! Did you ever read about Sodom and Gamora and what God did to them because they were living in wickedness? You just can’t write lyrics to songs and not apply them to your heart! You were just in the music business for the green god that would be given you in your wallet! HOW DARE YOU PUT GOD”S WORD TO MUSIC AND NOT APPLY IT TO YOURSELF! i am highly disappointed>

  3. Valerie says:

    I to am sad to hear this about Ray Boltz ,but he still has a soul Like I told my step son I don’t agree with this like style but I will still love him ,and hope that God will open his eyes ( There is no place for HOMOSEXUALITY IN HEAVEN ) What is this world coming to

  4. Where is the love people that Jesus Taught us about??

  5. vonda whitt says:

    ray boltz is greatest gospel singers i know i love all his songs especilly the song was i supposed to be that made me cry cause many women have abortions to me that is murder cause the had no chance to live if they didnt want the child give it up to people that cant have children.

  6. Newcreationron says:

    What if Ray was your brother or your own child? How would you really feel? While I do agree that the homosexual life style is a sin, I do believe that we have to afford those that are confused the same grace as any other sinner. If we out treat those like Ray as an outcast then we are not living up to Gods word and will to not judge lest we be judged.
    If we the people that claimed to love Ray Boltz and his music turn our backs on him we are no better that the of the world.
    Show the man some compassion and pray for him without ceasing.

    • hiscrivener says:

      If Ray was my child, I would say what I said in here… love the guy, don’t love what he is doing. It’s understandable to embrace his plight, but I would pray for him every day because he’s not just “gay”, he’s hurting and that is where he needs to sit for a while and talk to the same Christ he’s been singing about all these years.

  7. diegojames says:

    It should not be shocking. Surely there are many Christian musicians struggling with homosexuality. I’m saddened that Ray may have, from what I’m reading here, gone from hiding his struggle to now claiming it as who he is as simply a homosexual. For me, I am the struggle, I am this difficult struggle, but I am not in God’s will A homosexual. I’m surprised that someone (Ray Boltz) who could write so many words of Christ as a Christian would confuse the deep and difficult struggle with the idea that homosexuality is something to possibly embrace openly as a life style to hold up to the world. It is such a difficult struggle and those who do not struggle with it can not understand and you know this when a smug Christian says flatly:”it’s a choice.” But however deeply and painfully close to our hearts is this struggle, it doesn’t change the fact that coming out and admitting this struggle can not be the same thing as elevating the affliction to a normal temperament that can then be institutionalized into the fabric of the definition of family and healthy sexuality. Because then it means that children will be taught in school as early as kindergarten that their sexuality is a big question mark that will be answered by whatever may happen, as what ever WILL happen is the increasing perversion and isolation of men and women in society and the break down of the family and the departure from God’s will for the lives of men and women. This is so hard, because we who struggle with homosexuality DO HAVE A RIGHT to be understood, but that understanding is slim coming from other men and women and we can not expect them to understand. And itt is not understanding of heterosexual men and women to support “gay” causes. This is actually accepting something they don’t understand at all for the sake of excusing the leading of their own lives of fornication and disregard to God’s will. But God does understand the loneliness of this struggle. He gives us grace to even need and even act out in the flesh this difficulty at times. I can’t answer how we are supposed to eradicate such a visceral part of our inner emotional lives, I can’t answer how we are supposed to make everyone happy legally on this issue, I can’t answer how I feel I have the right to experience my own sexuality in its dysfunctionality while I know that it leads me to sin. But I can say that even though we are graced to go through this struggle with even the right and grace to fall on our faces at times that the answer is not to stop struggling and to then give into living openly as a “normal” homosexual. One of the first steps in being a Christian is to know that we are hypocrites. Yes, hypocrites until the day we die. Every Man is such and it must be faced. And the homosexual struggle kept quiet and to oneself is strangely the ultimate of hypocrisy that must be faced not to in order to expect eradication of the hypocrisy but to face it as a part of the fabric of the struggle. Talking openly about homosexuality as a means to heal the struggle itself is wrought with difficulty as it is at many junctures a subject better swept under the carpet. Part of the survival IS to stay in the closet as it is the best place for it: Kept as an interior struggle of the soul and in the confessional for the priest, and in the confession between the penitent and Jesus through the Holy Spirit in his or her heart. Our society does not understand suffering, nor the penitent soul. Lord have mercy upon us. Dear Jesus Christ love us.

  8. diegojames says:

    Testing as I wish to see what name appears after this comment.

  9. newcreationron says:

    Like many of you I love Ray’s music and songs. Yes I was floored when I heard the news, but Ray needs love and forgiveness and understanding. Why is it that we are so quick to forgive a murder or a thief and even an person that commites adultery yet when some says that they are gay we write them off. I do not understand the whole issue of homosexuality, but I believe it is a lie of tjhe devil that fall prey to.
    We should be praying for Ray and supporting him in his struggle. He who is without sin should cast the first stone

  10. Innocent A.Isabirye says:

    Ray’s song ”thank you” makes me cry everytime i listen to it,sometimes it makes me feel am embracing christ ,it’s one song that fills me with the love of God .It’s very unfortunate that the devil has imprisoned him,but am 100% sure he will rise back up again,that’s just bondage,christ is merciful,he will take him out of that pit by hand.This guy changed lives with his music ministry let’s not be quick to judge him,a lot of sins can children of God to hell let’s not look at homosexuality only even masturbation and pornography can lead one to destruction please Jesus loves him like any body else.As the lord liveth he will not burn in hell fire.Remember christ told us to pray for one another.

  11. Rick Puckett says:

    I’m so glad that Ray Boltz had the courage to be honest with himself as well as the rest of the world. The relationship we have with God is a personal one. God will use anyone willing to be a servant. Those who are quick to condem must clean out from underneath their own beds. Rick :O)

  12. Newcreationron says:

    While I am not gay, I have always felt that it was a very complex issue for anyone that truly felt that they were gay. The music of Ray Boltz has so much passion and respect for that God that God has to love Ray and his music. If people do not but or support his music because he is gay and yet supports other christian music that is sung by drunks and drug addicts and adulters then they are wrong.
    How about some of the music that is being played in churches today that do not respect and reverence God? For Mr. Boltz to come out meant that he forsake everything to be honest. How many of us are willing to do that? What secerts are we hiding that people would run from us if they knew. I do not understand the whole issue of homosexuality, but there are so many other sins we are always willing to over look that conflict with the Ten Commandments.
    I love Ray Boltz’s music and will continue to listen.

  13. Lover of the Word says:

    Who all is justifying this sin and behavior is wrong. Yet God is compassionate, He will not go against His Word. Sin is Sin… There is no alternative to this. Yes we all have struggles, but we must bring ourselves closer to the Father and most of all become accountable to other believers who can help us. Seems like scripture is pretty clear to me. What about you?

    Amplified Version (translated from the original Greek)
    1 Corinthians 6:9-10:
    9Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,

    10Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers and slanderers, nor extortioners and robbers will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God.

  14. balugiire ronald says:

    Ray do not allow the world to blind fold you.No man is born gay.It is a psychological schizophrenia that needs us to enter God mental surgical chamber of transformation.Marriage is meant to be between man and a woman.Homosexuality is a perversion that no man should never be caught into.Come,come to the truth ray.You pledged allegiance to the lamb with all your heart and all that you are.God has never made you gay.This is a lie from Jezebel and her agents who are deceiving the World.Ray come out of the disgrace pleas.

  15. balugiire ronald says:

    Ray please come back home because the father says you can rise again.I pray that you realize that what you are in is a lie and that just like the prodigal son you can receive the recovery grace.Ray your family and the world need you back to the way of truth.We love u coz christ does.

  16. hiscrivener says:

    Denis,

    What baffles me in this uber-PC world is people aren’t allowed to call behavior in the corner outside of people making Jesus a huge flippin’ pinata. Ray Boltz was a man who lived upright before God, and according to his precepts.

    Now, he is still an upright man, he just isn’t living according to the biggies, like that whole homosexual thingy.

    If you truly read more than the headline, you would see there was nothing condemnatory in it. He is respected, adored, loved and appreciated by many. He still is. So, either have an objective conversation about the Bible, God’s Word and the world revolving around it, or save the drivel. Because idle, eponymous threats aren’t that becoming.

    I’m glad you stopped by, and hope you do again.

    Peace,
    HiScrivener

  17. Denis says:

    You self righteous so-called “Christians” floor me with your judgements. You either don’t know how it feels to have these feelings or you have them yourself and you are hiding or suppressing them. Love God and others! Stop judging and being hypocrites like the pharasees of old.

    Jonathan and David did have a sexual affair and so did Ruth and Noami (after which modern marriage vows are taken).

    All gay people are asking for is to be able to love another person of the same sex and have all the rights that other loving couples do.

    Do you really want to persecute us and drive us underground and live lives of lies? Wouldn’t you want us to be in monogomous relationships that are healthy instead of having sex in parks and other places that are hidden — but it’s not just about the sex, it’s about the intimacy with someone of the same-sex and having emotional ties and being help-meets to each other.

    The younger generation will make progress towards better equality for all, so step out of the way!

  18. Jason says:

    If I said that I were attracted to children sexually, that I had been attracted to children for as long as I could remember, and that I had prayed about it for 20, 30 years and nothing had changed. If I decided that God had just made me that way, and decided to “come out” to my family, and eventually to the general public, what kind of reception could I expect? If my family loved me, they would continue to love me, while at the same time doing what they could to discourage me from acting on that attraction.

    Obviously, the ideal case would be for me to be relieved of the sinful desires that I had. The second-best would be for me to not act on those desires, even if I continued to have them. If I chose to act on my sinful desires, then that would be bad. The worst case would be if I chose to act on evil desires, and encouraged others to do the same by saying “God made me this way.”

    God has said that our sexual urges are to be satisfied in a monogamous, lifelong relationship with someone of the opposite sex. (Obviously, between two adults.)

    That leaves out the paraphilias like homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, etc. It also removes the alternate marriage arrangements, like polyandry and polygyny, and other forms of polygamy as ideal forms of marriage.

  19. Gunaseelan says:

    I am not a christian, either traditional or born-again. i hope fellow commentators or readers of this blog don’t mind if i chip in my views. If you do, my apologies. The reality of the matter is this man has declared to be a sexually orientated gay person. Ultimately, being truthful and honest to oneself and others, is valued high in terms of God’s Virtues. To Heaven or Hell, is a matter not for us to decide. Anyway, to Ray, be confident and be your self. Thanks for reading my comment and apologies again if I intrude in this blog.

  20. branderudanders says:

    Joseph writes in a blog commentar: “and you will want to say that the law is done away with im sure ill prove you wrong”

    My name is Anders Branderud and I am from Sweden. The most important thing in my life is Judaism. I have practised Orthodox Judaism through Netzarim (www.netzarim.co.il) in Ra’anana in Israel (led by the Orthodox Jew Paqid Yirmeyahu ha-Tzadiq), who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua (the Messiah) since 2007-05. Before that I was a devoted Christian for 6 years.
    The name of the historical Yeshua is Ribi Yehohsua.
    The research of world-recognized authorities (for example Barrie Wilson; http://www.barriewilson.com) in this area implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Pharisee (a Torah-practising Jewish group – who according to 4Q MMT (a Scroll found in the Qumran-caves) practised both written and Halakhah (oral Torah).

    Joseph you say that the “law” still is valid. In Hebrew it is called Torah – meaning instruction. Law is a wrongly translation.
    Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – practised Halakhah (oral Torah) as preserved since Moshe (Moses) in an uninterrupted chain. משפט (Mishpat; a Hebrew word in Torah) is commanded to be followed by the mitzwot (commandments) in Torah. Mishpat is the decisions of how the mitzwot in Torah shall be followed! Therefore it’s no addition to the commandments as is prohibited in Devarim (Deuteronomy) 13:1-6. No one has the right to go against the authority of mishpat. See more at http://www.netzarim.co.il; click at the letters M and H and then scroll down to “mishpat” and “Halakhah”. Torah warns that one shouldn’t subordinate to the mishpat decided by the Beit Din; but instead follow their own eyes and their own heart. See the end of Be’midbar chapter 15.

    I practise Torah and Halakhah to the best of my ability. I guarantee to you that it is not a heavy burden. It is wonderful to practise the mitzwot (commandments)

    תורה (Torah) requires subordination to the בית דין (beit din)-system instituted by מֹשֶה בְפַּרְשַת יִתְּרוֹ (Mosheh in Parashah Yitro) and that the only legitimate בתי דין (batei din; that is beit din in plural) today are those that are successors to the בית דין system instituted by משה בפרשת יתרו: the Orthodox בתי דין.

    If you want to follow the same and only Torah and Halakhah as the historical Ribi Yehoshua; you must subordinate yourself to Beit-Din ha-Netzarim (www.netzarim.co.il) in Ra’anana in Israel. That is the only Beit Din that believes Ribi Yehoshua is the Messiah; and therefore the only alternative to be a follower of Ribi Yehoshua is to subordinate oneself to the Beit-Din ha-Netzarim. The leader of Netzarim – Paqid Yirmeyahu ha-Tzadiq – is in good standing in the Beit ha-Kneset (Orthodox Synagogue) Moreshot Avot since more than a decade in Ra’anana in Israel.
    From Anders Branderud

  21. […] A popular brick on the Wall is our unfortunate story about Ray Boltz, who continues to butter churn that knife thrust in the Church’s back with stark reminders of his “Coming Out” party. […]

  22. Fig says:

    I will pray for Ray! Just as I pray for many I love that are also fighting this AFFLICTION!!! Yes, God is Love, and united by love is compassion, kindness, and forgiveness. So we must not judge as the word of God tells us. However, Jesus always spoke with the truth! The truth is that God accepts us with His arms wide open willing to forgive us and never to remember our sins again. Sadly, it is our unwillingness to surrender and submit to the free gift that Jesus paid for us! My brothers & sisters in Christ. I’m sorry but SIN=SIN! And there is no SIN in God!!! Church if we continue to allow sin into our churches we are only running God out! Don’t be DECEIVED by the notion that somehow demonstrating God’s love and sharing the gospel…you must sugar coat the fact that there is an eternity and that each individual must make a personal choice to deny this flesh of the urges of sin that WE ALL FACE! Homesexuality is SIN!!! You might want to battle the fact of words like “Unatrual” and the fact that this was a “Levite Law”. But the word of GOD clearly states “He is the same yesterday, today and forever.” In my book, if he didn’t accept it then, He WON’T accept it today!

  23. Jeremiah says:

    Ray Boltz’s songs are great! but I am very sad to hear that he is gay.
    What a disgrace!
    Homosexuality is a sin!

    It seems that he has crucified Christ again! Hebrews 6:6

    May God be merciful to him!

  24. joseph says:

    Let me say 1 thing i am a Messianic Jew i am a Jew Who believe’s Yeshua (jesus) is the Jewish Messiah.Romans 1:21 because, although they know who God is, they do not glorify him as God or thank him. On the contrary, they have become futile in their thinking; and their undiscerning hearts have become darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they have become fools! 23 In fact, they have exchanged the glory of the immortal God for mere images, like a mortal human being, or like birds, animals or reptiles! 24 This is why God has given them up to the vileness of their hearts’ lusts, to the shameful misuse of each other’s bodies. 25 They have exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, by worshipping and serving created things, rather than the Creator – praised be he for ever. Amen. 26 This is why God has given them up to degrading passions; so that their women exchange natural sexual relations for unnatural; 27 and likewise the men, giving up natural relations with the opposite sex, burn with passion for one another, men committing shameful acts with other men and receiving in their own persons the penalty appropriate to their perversion. 28 In other words, since they have not considered God worth knowing, God has given them up to worthless ways of thinking; so that they do improper things. 29 They are filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and vice; stuffed with jealousy, murder, quarrelling, dishonesty and ill-will; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God; they are insolent, arrogant and boastful; they plan evil schemes; they disobey their parents; 31 they are brainless, faithless, heartless and ruthless. 32 They know well enough God’s righteous decree that people who do such things deserve to die; yet not only do they keep doing them, but they applaud others who do the same.

    read this most most will read first part only
    27 and likewise the men, giving up natural relations with the opposite sex, burn with passion for one another, men committing shameful acts with other men and receiving in their own persons the penalty appropriate to their perversion.
    and you will want to say that the law is done away with im sure ill prove you wrong
    matthew 5:17 “Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
    mitzvot’s mean commandments torah is the law
    plz tell me has heaven and earth passed away did jesus walk on this earth or is this a new earth yes same earth means Follow the Laws Jesus said so OBEY HIM NOT ME OBEY HIS WORD’s
    21 “Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who do what my Father in heaven wants. 22 On that Day, many will say to me, `Lord, Lord! Didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we expel demons in your name? Didn’t we perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 Then I will tell them to their faces, `I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
    this goes for all believers I blame christnity for ray boltz and the gay christians it’s there fault the christian misters for saying that the law is done away with they will tell u they follow the law but they lie ask any of them if they eat pork or shrimp the prophets say anyone who eat’s pork will be destroyed the law says not to eat pork but christians do they them selfs pick and choose which laws they will follow no better then the gay christians in my view. i could go on for hours on this subject ill leave u with 1 final scripture
    Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you hypocritical Torah-teachers and P’rushim! You pay your tithes of mint, dill and cumin; but you have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah — justice, mercy, trust. These are the things you should have attended to — without neglecting the others!
    what does last part say Without Neglecting the Others Jesus was saying Follow all the Law not pick and choose which parts

  25. shawnbarr says:

    What a sad situation with Boltz. I do hope the Christian world will pray for him and also exhort him. Remember that we are called to exhort one another when we see a brother in sin. Here’s a fictional conversation between Ray Boltz and Jesus…

    http://shawnbarr.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/ray-boltz-talks-to-jesus/

  26. shawnbarr says:

    What a sad situation with Boltz. I do hope the Christian world will pray for him and also exhort him. Remember that we are called to exhort one another when we see a brother in sin. Here’s a fictional conversation between Ray Boltz and Jesus…

    http://shawnbarr.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/ray-boltz-talks-to-jesus/

  27. […] Due respect to Ray Boltz, no one saw that coming and no one knows how long he has been dealing with it. Clay, on the other hand, come on! That hair, that voice, those denials. Puh-lease. […]

  28. John Santiago says:

    For someone to say that Christians do not understand what the Bible says about Homosexuality due to their misinterpretation of the scriptures, is ludicrous on ALL levels. HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN! PERIOD! No gray area, no compromise, nothing, nada. If you are gay, you are deceived and going STRAIGHT to hell! You do not pass Go, you do not collect 200 reason’s to justify it as “of the Lord”. It’s a filthy disgusting lifestyle and ANY Christian who “comes out of the closet” as Ray Boltz did, is LOST and of a reprobate mind and going STRAIGHT TO HELL.

  29. Dale says:

    I got to say that I am floored also, & somewhat hurt. We all have vices, sins, addictions to deal with in this life. But does that mean we embrace these sins & call them “OK” & embrace those things which easily beset us? I was living an ungodly lifestyle, a sexual relationship with a woman while not being married. Is it a sin? Yes..Is heterosexual sex normal, yes…but that doesn’t make it right out of the wrong context. I was engaging in something that God created & endorses only in marriage. A wonderful strong brother confronted me in my sin. I was reading the Bible & going to church..I thought God understood & somewhat condoned my lifestyle. You know what? I was wrong. I was decieved. I wanted to sin, I jumped in head first. The Bible says we are drawn away by our own lusts. I want you to know that we repented & stopped what we were doing. Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery, Go & sin no more. Folks, God does demand holiness, for without it, we won’t see God. Jesus does love us including every homosexual out there, but he does not like our sin whether it be perversion, lying, cheating or whatever. Homosexuality is clearly wrong in the Scriptures (Romans 1:26-27,1 Corinthians 6:9-11) As all the other numerous sins. Folks we all have sinned, I am sure have commited more sin than you…Jesus died for our sins, my sin, your sin. We are all unworthy, but God is graceful. God is merciful. But God will not be mocked, whatever a man sows, he will reap. If you are struggling with homosexuality, don’t give up, your feelings will drag you everywhere but to the truth of God’s Word. Feelings can be deceiving. I feel like running into the guy who cut me off in traffic, I feel angry…that is real, but I don’t give into the impulse. I could hurt that person or hurt myself. Feelings & impulses are not truth. The Bible is truth. Christ shed His blood for you & me. If you are struggling, go to a trusted spiritual leader, get counseling, get deliverance if you need it. I know those who have been delivered from all kinds of sin, including homsexuality. Don’t believe the lies in our backslidden culture, sin is sin & it brings spiritual death. But Christ has come to set us free from our sins, whatever they might be. I personally think Ray Boltz is one of the best Chistian singers of our generation. His songs are so powerful & touched of God & will continue to be. I just am heartbroken over his announcement. My prayers will certainly be with him & hope he will once again walk the straight & narrow path of Christ.

  30. […] of Ray Boltz (and more videos here): Looking around on blogs, plenty of Christians have been very judgmental about his coming-out […]

  31. Ted Haggard says:

    Kudos, Ray, Kudos!!!! I am so proud of you! So uh hey you wanna get together sometime and have a drink? *winks*

    Also, I know a grrreaat massuse……..

    Teddy

  32. Connie says:

    God did not make Ray Boltz “gay”, because it would be going against his Word, his divine creation of male and female.
    Sometime in his early years as a child, something must have gone terribly wrong.
    Ray said he became a christian to deal with his feelings…this is not why someone becomes a christian. Maybe the lie he has been living is that he truly never confessed his sins and never truly surrended to Christ with ALL his heart, which we all must do. Jesus Christ gives us a new start with a renewed mind and a renewed life. I pray that Ray experiances true salvation.

    Regarding homosexuality: We do not need any medical doctor or science to define or tell us that someone is born “gay” or cannot be born “gay”. All this is contrary to what God says. He’s the authority on this subject.

    In Genesis, from the beginning of man and woman’s creation, God says he made them male and female. Then he says he made woman for man, for he says he brought Eve to Adam. And also in Genesis 2, God says, “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother and shall cleave unto his WIFE, and they shall be one flesh. From the very beginning when God made man and woman, he decrees his plan, his wisdom, his instruction….then he tells them to multiply.
    And when the flood came, he instructed Noah that what would enter the ark, would be two of every sort, male and female. These are God’s words…he has never differed from His Word.

    And the account of David and Jonathan’s close relationship does not suggest or imply that God has altered or differed his plan, his divine order for man and woman. God brought Eve, a woman to Adam and he said man would cleve to his WIFE,(Genesis 2). David and Jonathan’s relationship, if it is seen as a “gay” relationship is not something that one can accept as God’s divine order.
    God gave his order in Genesis 2.

  33. Chrystal says:

    Amen, Toney!

    Preachers address same-sex relationships all the time, people just don’t want to hear it. We live in a day of “fast food christianity” where you can have it your way in a buffet style of atmosphere. Don’t like what’s being taught? That’s okay, don’t eat it! Choose something else. For that matter, choose whatever satisfies you.

    People who advocate homosexuality seem to forget that God’s Word says that those who do such things will not enter in. Yes, it speaks of other besetting sins, but it also expressly mentions this as well. Those who are living in an openly homosexual lifestyle are willfully acting in open defiance to God and His Word. It is evidence of an overbearing sin nature. We cannot embrace sin, we must reject it an overcome through the blood of the risen Savior, Jesus Christ.

  34. Tony Cathey says:

    To Christie:
    I don’t believe for a second that David and Jonathan had a “romantic relationship”. While I think the tone of the Original Post is very great, the subject still stands that homosexuality is wrong and a sin. It is no greater sin than any others, but a sin it still is. Ray has to repent and put his faith in Christ and His Finished Work. That alone will bring deliverance. I don’t recommend Ray just living with it at all, or any other Christian that struggles with it for that matter. God can deliver.

    Tony
    http://www.imablogger.net

  35. kmw says:

    Doesn’t the word of God mean anything anymore? What does God say in the Bible about homosexuality? What does the Bible say about those who choose to sin and continue to live in sin? Doesn’t what Jesus did on the cross for us mean anything to anyone anymore? What about REPENTING???? turning away from SIN? So if I am predisposed to ponography, I should just do that because “God made me that way”??? or adultery, maybe I can’t just seem to commit myself to my husband/wife, I have an “eye” for others, well I just can’t HELP that so I guess “God made me that way” and I will just have to live that way and if He wanted me to be different He would just “change” me? Come on people. Walking the Christian life is not easy. We should not be excusing any of our sin away and actually calling people brave and commending them because they admit they have a sin that they are choosing to continue in. Everyone has gotten so “politically correct” these days they totally ignore what God says in the Bible. If someone choses to continue in a sin after being confronted in a loving manner then we are to cut ourselves off from them until they repent and return. I have loved Ray for years and will continue to love him and pray for Him. But sin is sin, period.

    • michele klika says:

      You are right! Exodus International is a ministry that helps people with Same Sex Attractions (SSA) get things turned around.
      I wonder why Ray did not get help through them or a similar ministry.
      A battle to overcome a sin stronghold is a big one and will have to be won on our knees.
      God is faithful to answer the prayers of the righteous.

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  37. Christie says:

    Many Christians will turn against him because of this, which is wrong. He’s still the same person, he just couldn’t keep living a lie. David and Johnathan did have a romantic relationship, they were closer to each other than they ever were with women. I have never heard a preacher who did a sermon on any part of the Bible having to do with a same-sex relationship. It’s always avoided and only through reading the Bible myself was I surprised to find out stories like these are in the Bible. I know many are shocked about his story, but there are probably other gospel singers and fellow church members who are hiding this part of themselves. Jesus would never turn his back on Ray because of this, and we’re supposed to love everyone and treat them the same.

  38. Kwesi says:

    Thank you for the tone of this post. Let’s be clear here, I believe in the power of the Gospel, I believe in the Power of God and I believe the bible is clear on this matter. While I speak in part for personal experience, I am not by any means an expert on human sexuality. I don’t claim to understand it fully. I just know who I once believed I was and who I am today.

    I thank you for the tone, because the bible is certainly clear on loving one another. Some seem to think we can stop the love when we find fault or flaws, struggles or disappointments in a person of faith.

    A couple of things I know. God has the power to do what men consider impossible. God will not provide the leather useless and until we remove the fig leaves.

    Hopefully this is not the end of the story, but the beginning of a transformation for our brother Ray.

  39. Robynne Sapp says:

    Thank you for posting such a compassionate blog about Ray’s coming out. You wrote, “I am floored with disbelief and flummoxed for words.” I understand complelely! We found out months ago, and when I heard the news, I literally flew off the hotel room bed where I was resting. Ray was and still is my most favorite and beloved Christian artist. I am so proud of him and his family for taking this courageous stand for truth and their choice to stop the lie and live authentically. Please do keep them in your prayers. It’s a challenging time now… really good and really liberating, but challenging… as many in the church would rather continue believing the lie. We love you, Ray! Thank you for being a Jesus man, and for making the choice to live as God created you to be! How dare any of us do anything less. You are an inspiration, and your story will not only touch countless numbers of lives, but will also SAVE lives.

  40. Jerrodf says:

    I prefer to remain anonymous, but will say that I have a number of similarities with Ray Boltz. I’m also a Scripture-believing Christian, consider myself a homosexual (greatly against my will), and like Ray, have felt that after coming out to my family and select friends, also feel much closer to God because I no longer hate myself.

    There’s a very good article on those who consider themselves to be both gay and Christian, written by a Spirit-filled blogger named Caroline Ferdinandsen. She writes for Conversant Life based in Fresno, and drafted the piece a number of months ago.

    In it, she refers to a ‘dear Christian friend’ which is actually me. We’ve known each other since church youth group 27 years ago (I’m now 45), and she knows the subject material well, based on our longstanding relationship and some background information on the matter that I supplied for her.

    Caroline herself is a very happily married mother of three, and I believe anyone reading her thoughts will see that she possesses a keen understanding of this complex issue. You can read her blog at:
    http://tinyurl.com/6c4gtv

    The bottom line (at least in my opinion) is that no one would want to be gay if faced with the choice. As someone who’s lived with a self-stigma all of his life like Ray Boltz and many, many others, I’ve simply tried to please God the best way I know how. This has been the case even when the burden never went away after years of prayer, counseling and asking our Heavenly Father ‘why’.

    That said, I’d like to kindly suggest that the best thing fellow followers of Christ can do is to sincerely love people the way they are – as I believe Jesus did. We always hear that it’s not for us to judge why people are the way they are, but to treat them with kindness and compassion, talk to them about their concerns, and encourage them in a way that our Messiah did. After all, He’s placed us here for an express purpose, and wants us to act as His hands, feet and voice here on earth.

    God’s blessings on all of you, and may the Lord be your sustenance and strength in the years ahead.

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