Robert Schuller and the family affair gone terribly wrong

Posted: October 31, 2008 in Above the Fold, Denominational Fun, Networking, On Your Wall, Snap, Crackle and POP Culture
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MOST RECENT UPDATE: The Crystal Cathedral has lost its power and filed Chapter 11.

UPDATE: Is Elder Schuller retiring? Don’t call it a comeback… it’s all right here. And then some.

Three years ago the father of the nation’s first megachurch, Rev. Robert Schuller and his Crystal Cathedral, gave up the ghost (metaphorically) and allowed his clone son to take over the pulpit.

But that entitlement was only an experiment as Good Ol’ Dad came back to roost and kicked that hen out of the house, citing a “lack of shared vision”. Oh boy!

“It is no secret to any of you that my son, Robert, and I have been struggling as we each have different ideas as to the direction and the vision for this ministry,” his statement read. “For this lack of shared vision and the jeopardy in which this is placing this entire ministry, it has become necessary for Robert and me to part ways.

I’m sorry. Did that old codger just chicken peck on his typewriter, “My son and I have to part ways”?! What was his reason, “irreconcilable differences”?! Someone getting half? Was there another woman?

What the …? This ain’t a divorce, dude. This is your son!

You don’t part ways just because the kid doesn’t throw down the theology like dear old Dad. Maybe the other woman is an old – and I mean OLD – seminary professor of yours calling you on the cell (or shouting in the can attached to a string) saying, “Hey Bob. Your boy doesn’t really profess the Divine Command Theory the way I’d prefer so I think he’s got to go.” And if that wasn’t it, this was:

Robert A. Schuller’s major challenge was attracting younger congregants and using the television program to build membership. It is unclear whether he achieved that.

Seriously?! Dude is like 98 and… his dad is older than that! Have you seen the blue hairs this grandiose church attracts? The AARP could hold a convention there and sell tchotchkeys on a weekly basis. The crow’s feet in that place could fill a zoo. That or a cornfield hanging out with the scarecrows.

Still no one knows what happened. And quite honestly, I don’t know if anyone cares. I suppose like the aforementioned disgruntled wife, the “man of the house” just needs to get younger at that position.

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Comments
  1. marra says:

    Months ago, Sheila Coleman, daughter of Robert had announced that God would prevail and saved the church from bankruptcy. God did not response their way. It’s all business. So many fake smiles by the the Schullers during congregation, so much talks less spirituals, too much opinions to fill the satellite air, and hypes. Family did not have harmony (whatever happened to POSSIBILITIES) toward the end, unity was melted due to disagreements, ego contest, and heart aches.

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  3. [...] began as a messy divorce between father and son, debt at Crystal Cathedral causing the lights to get cut off and then Dad thinking his son can do [...]

  4. [...] the Church today. Take the plight of Robert Schuller and the Crystal Cathedral. We have gone from Elder Schuller kicking his son clean out of the pulpit to the entire ministry being on its last gems dealing with $65 million in [...]

  5. blonde says:

    i think the holier than thou sinners should clean up their own back yard…no one really knows the truth but JESUS…this is GOD’S plan….not ours…if you get something from the message and the LORD speaks to you thru it, then thats all that matters…..the rest is just gossip and judgemental behavior of which none of us are qualified to make…

  6. Rick malachiah says:

    the whole bunch has to go same old saw daddy can i have the old car (church). when he gets the keys he wraps it around a pole. great going junior thats what you get for not kissing the old farts rear like the pope.

  7. Rick malachiah says:

    What a loser the senior is. the son waits till his daddy gives him the keys and the old fart has a hissy fit when he’s not had his butt kissed like the pope he should have done like franklin graham did started your own church inc. prove your self first !!!

  8. [...] been a while since we heard a peep from the chisel-jawed son-of-a-preacher man. After he got the boot from dear old Dad for not being a pastor in his old, shriveled image, he took a sabbatical to find his ministerial [...]

  9. bill bowling says:

    Am disappointed in not hieaing Roberete Anthony. I no longer listen every SUnday. bill b

  10. Marylyn Nitz says:

    I did not Robert Jr. He was of the new school and was he truly worshipping the true God or was he too worldly? For me when his model wife got up there as a preacher and read the scripture, was too much for me. I think there must be an answer. I think the old Rev Schuller is too old to run this big church by himself, but I do believe after all these years, if I had a choice I would take old Rev Schuller. I think the word of God should be preached in the church. Don’t play games. If you want to have a party go somewhere else. Church is God’s house and where his word and his word only should be preached. I’m sorry for the breakup but I really think Rev Schuller should get another MAN in with him to help him bring the gospel to the world.

    • Berean says:

      This is very simple – wake up sheep, Robert Schuller is not, I repeat not a Bible believing Christian. His mentor if you will is Norman Vincent Peale. Who is Norman Vincent Peale you may ask? Call the Brooklyn Masonic Temple and they might tell you, his protrait is hanging in their “hallowed” hall. Norman Vincent Peale went on Donahue and told our courntry on national T.V. that Jesus was not the way to heaven – Donahue was shocked! He went on to tell his audience the gospel – the way to heaven is confessing and turning from your sin and trusting in Jesus, for crying out loud Phil Donahue knows the gospel better than Vincent Peale and Schuller do. Robert Schuller is a New Ager. What gospel does he preach ?- positive thinking, possibility thinking- did John the Baptist, Paul, Peter, James, John, or Jesus preach this stuff? I have never seen this man crack open a Bible on his show, ever. Jesus said that there would be many false teachers and false messiahs in the last days, you can count this man as one of them. Wake up and smell the anionting oil little lambs – read your Bible, do some digging on the internet, search out the truth, our Lord said the gate to heaven is narrow and few will find it, broad is the gate to destruction and many will go through it, was he kidding, or worse yet was he lying? Absolutely not! Do not follow this blind guide into the ditch – read your Bible for yourself.

      • keith C says:

        This was an awesome response and hit the nail on the head. Wow! Thanks so much for putting this in straight and clear words.

      • Sara says:

        ALL these television preachers are crooks. Schuller Sr is no different. His family lived high on church $$$ when the church
        was going bankrupt. They should be made to pay back what they
        took or be sued by the congregation. What preacher gets $300,000
        yr ??? What a con & the people who allowed this to happen are stupid

  11. Trevor G says:

    …I saw a sign on a church; it read, “The Wages of Sin is Death… Repent before payday. Fathers and Sons should reconcile and forgive each other. If your going to talk the talk–”Walk it!”

    You know people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, huh.

    • Robert S. says:

      Three years later and that’s still cleverly funny!
      “You know people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, huh”

  12. Ed & Cookie Koke says:

    We too had our recorder programmed for the HOP as we attend our own church service during that same time. We no longer record or watch the HOP as the HOP withour Robert A.is not the same. We always looked forward to his Bible based messages. Robert H. needs to bring Robert A. back to the HOP for it to be lasting ministry into the future. Does Robert H.think he is going to live forever? Robert A. if you read this message “WE MISS YOU” We pray daily that you may return to the HOP.
    We like many others have withdrawn our support and supporting other causes instead & have cancelled our support for the “EAGLE CLUB” after 18+ years until Robert A. returns.

  13. JO & JOHN says:

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    2009 May 3
    JO & JOHN permalink

    WE HAD OUR RECORDER SET FOR EVERY SUNDAY MORNING
    FOR “HOUR OF POWER” BUT NOT ANY MORE. WE ENJOYED YOUNG SCHULLER SERMONS MOST OF ALL FOR SEVERAL YEARS. HIS FATHER’S SERMONS HAVE SOUNDED OLD AND TIRED AND EVEN MORE SO SINCE HE FIRED HIS SON. WE ARE REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN OUR FAVORITE SUNDAY MORNING EXPERIENCE. SOUNDS LIKE A POWER DECISION.

  14. [...] Three years later, Daddy missed his bling and kicked Bobby to the curb. Instead of an amicable “Aw gee, Daddy” parting of the ways, it’s been more like the exodus and the Red Sea. [...]

  15. S Nobitz says:

    The Crystal Cathedral that I watch on Sunday mornings is not the same with Robert A and his family not participating. One Sunday Robert A is there and the next he is not as if he never existed. I have read some of his books and received so many rich blessings from them. I enjoyed his method of preaching and looked forward to each Sunday. I still watch each Sunday but I always feel as if something is missing. I pray that Robert A and his family are doing well and I hope we will all know soon where he is ministering .

  16. Don Jo Black says:

    Why would you want to break your family up and your church up ,now that your 80,and will leave
    this world and have to answer to Jesus. You a Christian ,are suppose to be forgiveing.Please
    we ask for you to forgive and heal things.

  17. Henry Balch says:

    Dear Robert A. and Donna. I miss both of you on the Hour of Power and hope you will be able to return or resume your TV ministry at some other place soon. I will never forget the Evil Kneivel program and your baptism of so many was truly inspiring. Also inspiring was the following week when you explained about the man running late down the aisle. Donna your reading the Bible was always outstanding. I often wished I could go on one of your Holy Land trips but unfortunately I waited too long and now am unable to travel.I love both of you and hope you can respond. Henry Balch hhsb12@aol.com

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  19. Beverly says:

    I think Robert (the older) should stop believing in his own press and start looking into his heart. To me he seems to spend more time revelling in the kudos handed out by his selected guests – which are fawning to say the least – he should stop advertising his wondrous past feats (amazing and all that they are) and concentrate on the future which is now very much in jeopardy. At 80+ his presentation of the word of God is nothing short of bad play acting and has become very hard to watch. It’s time for him to step back and let the ministry move on to it’s ordained destination. This will be the hardest thing for him to accept after all those years of being “in charge” but he needs to bring back Robert (the younger).

  20. [...] after a three-year respite, he kicked his son off TV and wanted to run in Hollywood Squares at his church. Next, Schuller Junior told the old man where he could stick that TV and [...]

  21. Jay Manarky says:

    Robert Schuller,the poppa, is a graduate(metaphorically) of the Norman Vincent Peale(sp?) school of positive thinking.
    Jr. was positive too but his inspiration came from the scriptures. Maybe one day soon Poppa will appear on the platform with a fatted calf and plead for his son to come home and be forgiven and joinhim for lunch. Forgiven? For what poppa? Following God instead of Norman Vincent Peale?
    A wise old man once told me “Paul is appealing and Peale is apalling.

  22. Hans Zellenrath says:

    On the fruits you will recognize the tree.The Robert Anthony tree bears many fruits of the Holy Spirit, the biggest fruits are love, peace, kindness, goodness and faith.

    Pride, unforgiveness,always aware of their own ego, full of themselves, are against the fruits of the Spirit of God. They who walked in that ways saddened the Holy Spirit.

    May God forgive all the sins wrapped in spiritual sermons and let the Spirit only lead us to Jesus Christ who is alive. Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of he world.

    Hans, The Netherlands.

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  24. DORCIE LACY says:

    YES I AGREE THE SCHULLERS NEED TO TELL US THE TRUTH. OUR MINDS GO TO THE SCANDLE SHEETS AND WE WONDER WHAT THE NEXT HEADLINES MIGHT BE . IS RHS RELLY THAT SHALLOW. I DOUBT IT. I THINK THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A FAMILY SCURRY OR COVER UP OF SOME TYPE. IF NOT . THEN
    THE BOARD AND RHS NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO RAS FAST !! HOW DARE THEY SAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE AN INTERNATIONAL MINISTRY ? WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT IS THIS TO (RAS), SON, BROTHER, BROTHER IN LAW AND ETC ? THIS IS EVIL !! DID RAS …FUNNEL FUNDS TO HIMSELF OR HIS MINISTRY ..DID HE HAVE AN AFFAIR OR SOME OTHER SIN TOO HORENDOUS TO MENTION….? I DOUBT THAT HE IS THAT STUPID .
    RHS I BELIEVE YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE STAND WITH YOUR FAMILY AND TO YOUR PUBLIC . THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR TREATING YOUR SON IN THIS MANNER SIMPLY BECAUSE HE IS FOLLOWING GOD’S DIRECTION AS BEST AS HE IS ABLE. NO, HE IS NOT AS EXPERIENCED OR KNOWLEDGEABLE AS YOU ARE. BUT YOU CANNNOT DENY THAT GOD HAS BEEN WORKING IN HIS LIFE . YOU CANNOT ALLOW THE BOARD TO TAKE SIDES
    AND TRY AND SHOW LOYALTY TO YOU . OF COURSE THEY ARE BIASED TO YOU . AREN’T WE ALL ?…. TRULY A PROPHET IS WITHOUT HONOR IN HIS OWN COUNTRY AND
    RAS MAY HAVE MANY LESSONS HE MUST LEARN THE “HARD” WAY. SUPPORT HIM DO NOT THE BOARD
    UNLESS RAS HAS SOMETHING “ELSE” (UNPARDNABLE SIN) GOING ON.
    ………… PLEASE DO NOT GIVE US THE RUN AROUND WE WERE NOT
    BORN YESTERDAY. …… I AM EXPECTING YOU TO ASK RAS FOR FORGIVENESS … SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND EGO ……. I AM SURE THAT YOU RHS AND YOUR BOARD HAVE A HIGHER POWER TO
    ANSWER TO.

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  26. Richie says:

    I think he came out that he was Gay to His father, and he booted him off the Air. !!!

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